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Help needed

Posts: 5
Registered: 05-Dec-2006
please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 15:32
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I think i have a food adiction. i have cf and blame part of this food adiction on the way i was treated when it came to food when i was young by the hospital, but i literally eat for the sake of it all the time and cant control it. im not over weight as such but need to lose 2 stone to become more happy in myself and just cant do it! HELP!

NorthernStar

Posts: 24
Registered: 02-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 15:46
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Losing two stone if you are not overweight sounds a bit radical and a bit risky to me.

Have you chatted to your team about how you feel about food and your self esteem issues? Addictions can be difficult to deal with so it would probably be best to get some professional advice from your team.

Help needed

Posts: 5
Registered: 05-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 16:29
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I am above average weight. have always had weight issues regarding being over weight. i just have to lose at least a stone and a half and then il be happier. i just cant seem to though.

softie

Posts: 1,070
From: Croydon, Surrey
Registered: 07-Feb-2004
Re: please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 17:50
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OK, read that post of yours, and take the word "HAVE" as in "have to lose" out. The real word is WANT. Be honest. Go on - post it again and say "WANT" instead! You only HAVE to lose weight when a doctor says "you have to lose 20 stone or die".

Now for some helpful advice:

Best way to lose weight for a pwcf is to exercise. Pwcf cannot run the risk of losing their appetite, as we depend on it for times when we are ill - and the one thing we can guarantee is that we WILL be ill, sooner or later, and will lose weight as a result.

Exercise, however, allows us to keep our appetites unblunted, does a lot of good for our hearts and lungs, and helps us to lose weight and turn fat (which is ugly, sits on the hips and looks floppy) into muscle (which looks much better, sits on the arms and legs and looks sleek).

First thing to do is join a gym AND USE IT. So many gyms get their profits from the hundreds of people who join, pay for 20 sessions and then never turn up. Weird. Try to exercise BEFORE eating, so your muscles grab what you eat to refuel themselves after all the effort. Go for a LONG, brisk walk before Christmas lunch!

Second thing: Buy a book about the GI factor. There are many of them. The idea is to eat as much as you want, but to eat foods that are more likely to turn into fuel rather than overflow your muscles and liver and turn into fat.

Don't use artificial sweeteners. If you have a cake, eat a real cake. A cake with sweeteners promises your body that you are eating sugar, so you make insulin which drags sugar out of the blood into the liver, which turns the sugar into fat. Then, no sugars come along, the blood is low on sugar, and you get hungry and go and binge on something like buiscuits to fill up - and the fat your liver made gets added to the fat in the biscuits and smears all over your hips.

Exercise and some fairly small changes to your diet will make things easier. If you STICK to it, then you will, slowly, lose weight. This is safe weight loss, unlike so many diets that encourage you to eat too little and cause you to dehydrate, and suffer from hunger pangs that make you break your diet.

I hope this helps. Take care, don't go daft, and stay well!

Richard.

Ally

Posts: 68
From: Hunmanby near Filey
Registered: 06-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 18:16
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I'm getting more and more worried in posts where people want to loose weight. it's important to keep healthy and keep your weight at a good level. once again I know what I'm talking about as I suffer with anorexia, please be careful if you want to loose a little weight and don't go silly. In the end you have to remember having a bit of extra weight on you helps fight infections. In my quest for perfection i have renal failure and I'm going blind because my diabetes was effected, don't go down the road I did, we have enough to deal with in our lives WCF never mind all this about loosing weight for what I can see there's no reason.
I'm not being unfair or nasty but it does worry me that you could end up being quite ill.
regards
Ally

jayjay

Posts: 13
From: Northampton
Registered: 06-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 05-Dec-2006 19:39
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Hi Help needed.

I just want to say that I know exactly how you feel. In recent years my weight has been good and no cause for concern(although I was frightfully skinny as a teenager!) However, lately I have been having problems with steroids which amongst other things, have made me put on almost a stone in weight.

A stone might not sound a lot, and although yes it's great that my lungs have extra energy to fight infection etc, the fact remains that none of my clothes fit me which makes me feel miserable. I can't afford to go out and buy a new wardrobe so just end up looking like a blob and being really uncomfortable.

Here is how I sympathize with you though "HelpNeeded". Even though My weight is now on the higher side of average, and even though I would rather it went down a bit, I can't stop eating crap! I have spent my whole life putting butter on EVERYTHING, drinking full fat milk and eating as many biscuits and sweets as I can cram into a day, and no matter how hard I try, I can't stop. Food just tastes rubbish without butter on it and a day just seems hiddiously empty without a packet of haribo, a hand full of biscuits, a packet of crisps (or two) and a Mars bar. How do you stop a habit of a lifetime?

On the plus side though, my dietition is thrilled with me, so at least someone's happy!

Good luck Help needed.

jayjay

Help needed

Posts: 5
Registered: 05-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 10:54
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JayJay that is exactly like i feel. EXACTLY.

i feel miserable. i try to eat healthy and i quite like healthy food but i just cant stop eating inbetween meals and its like i get shakes and feel ***** if i dont eat constantly. and i mean i eat BIG portions for meals too.

it feels like a no win cycle!

Shelbert

Posts: 70
From: Ayrshire
Registered: 08-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 14:24
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OH MY GOD

I can't believe PWCF are actually worried about having too much weight.

Maybe its just me but i have looked like a twig all my life with no **** and i hate it - especially as i am a woman in my early twentys.

I was always under 7 stone and couldn't stand the way i looked as it just screamed "unwell" to everyone i had a conversation with but on January i was put on steroids and gained 2 and a half stone and for the first time in my life i managed to fill size 12 clothes and it was the happiest time ever, i actually felt normal and womanly for once but there was also an added benefit to the weight gain - i was allowed to go on the tx list and to be honest if they wanted me to be a size 20 then i would have done all i could to get myself there as i now have a second chance at life should i get my call and thats worth all the love handles in the world.

Unfortunately i haven't been able to eat since the 19th September due to a taste and smell distortion and i'm now losing weight which i'm extremely upset about as i might be taken off the list but i'm guessin you lot out there are thinkin to yourselves "god, i wish that was me", well you know what? all i say is "be careful what you wish for" coz you might just get it.

Stop the moaning and crack open another pack of bikkies and forget about losing the weight, we have enough to be gettin on with.

Shelbert

anteater

Posts: 3
From: Essex
Registered: 03-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 15:28
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Hi there,
My weight has been going up and up for quite a while now and although it's always been "ok" I was starting to feel less confident etc, especially when I had to start borrowing my mum's clothes (cringe!) because mine just didn't fit.

The first thing I did was contact my dietician who e-mailed me loads of useful info about sensible ways to just cut back a bit (like swapping a choc bar for a portion of dried fruit - its just as sweet and fills you up for longer, having porridge for breakfast etc). Lots of this info was about GI foods and I def think that they help.

I then went for my normal check up and discussed it further face to face, including WHY I wanted to lose the weight, and by how much. My dietician measured my BMI (Body Mass Index) to determine whether I really needed to and she agreed that a little bit going would be of benefit.

I decided to join Weight Watchers along with my mum and have been going for 8 weeks now, and have lost 7lbs. To do this I have followed their No Count plan which inclkudes eating as much as you like of the "allowed" foods at specified meal times, and snacking on fruit and veg inbetween. I have also increased my exercise levels by going for a walk during my lunch hour. My weight loss is slow, and that is a GOOD thing!!! It's much easier to do a realistic plan and lose it gradually.

My biggest piece of advice is TALK TO YOUR DIETICIAN FIRST!!!!! Hope this helps!

Darkies Gem

Posts: 89
From: Doncaster, UK
Registered: 10-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 15:38
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I don't wish that was me at all. And totally understand why you get upset that were going on about loosing weight, when some are so desperately trying to put it on.

My reason is not the best, but it's the only way I'm going to feel happy about me.
I'm planning on getting married. And after my last lot of steroids had to buy a load of clothes in size 14-16,as I bloated.
Well, I've had my wedding dress a while, and the weight I was when i got it was perfect. I was still slightely overweight, but only just.
Iwant to be able to fit into that dress again,it's a gorgeous dress, that although only cost £25,has had a hell of alot of work but into it by me and my mum, so it just fit me right, and had some nice diamonds sewed in, and flowers. This was 2 years ago, and at the time, got scared off at the thought of marriage. this time though, I want to marry Paul, and I want to look fantastic.
While I'm really thin and gaunt in my face through tiredness. My belly's still a bulge, and my dress still won't fit.

Another reason I needed to lose weight, was because the 3/4 inch needle suddenly didn't fit my port, after ballooning out. They had to start using inch needles, and the pain from them, and increased infection risk from them as they stuck out, just isn't worth keeping the weight on for.

I know it's better for pwcf to be that bit bigger and I agree. But with all the dieticians drilling into you that you can never lose weight or you'll die, you can get too big for comfort, and Ithink nowadays a lot of PWCF are finding that.

I remember a few years back, someone had the problem of being too overweight. They got blasted down by everyone on the boards,and I felt so sorry for them. They had the overweight problem as they don't have the enzyme problem.

If people can get the support on here for being underweight, I don't see why they can't get the support for being overweight. It's a risky thing to mention on these boards. I think it's daft. Especially as some people's overweightness is to do with there CF.

Ok, so I didn't actually see reason for 'I need help' to actually be loosing weight. But a nice comforting post with some advice is better than a 'I lost weight and look what happened to me' post. As it's said somany times on these boards, everyone is effected by CF differently.

Helly

Posts: 1
From: Kent
Registered: 06-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 15:46
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Hi
I thought i would reply to your post.

I have CF and i have my own fitness clinic in Beckenham, Kent.
Do you live near there? Our sessions are very reasonible and all out Personal Trainers are fully qualified, especially Andy my partner as he helps me with my health.

He can advise you on your nutrition to help keep you weight healthy and stable, but also train you in our private clinic to help you with you self esteem and to improve you health.

Our website is www.definefitness.co.uk

Or if you are unable to come to us coz of distance, then please email us via the website and Andy will do his best to help you.

Shelbert

Posts: 70
From: Ayrshire
Registered: 08-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 16:24
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Hey peeps

I would just like to apologise to Help Needed and Darkies Gem.

After reading your posts it occured to me that Darkies Gem had a valid point "If people can get the support on here for being underweight, I don't see why they can't get the support for being overweight"

I was being completely selfish, like you say CF affects everyone differently and weight is definately an issue for many people whether it be too much or too little.

I completely sympathise with others who are not in my situation, i'm just going through a "grass is always greener phase" and would love to be bigger if i could.

Please accept my apology and Darkies Gem - i hope you have a fabulous wedding.

Merry Christmas
Shelbert

Darkies Gem

Posts: 89
From: Doncaster, UK
Registered: 10-Nov-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 17:33
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*hugs Shelbert*

I didn't mean to make you feel bad, I was just trying to point out that there are others who need help too, but sometimes in a different way.

I look at some of my friends with CF and it sacres me to think that Icould ever be that thin. But at the same time, the problem with huge bellyness has to go away.

Iwasn't responding to you as such, although did have your post in mind. I just remembered the last time weight got mentioned and the poor person ended up on the recieving end of lots of hate from people. When really they just needed support like the rest of us.

I'm sure my wedding day will be fine, just nervous that things aren't gonna get done due to lack of funds, and the fact my dress is still too tight. I really need to stay away from those skandishakes:P

Merry christmas

Gem
XxXxX

Help needed

Posts: 5
Registered: 05-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 17:46
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ive struggled with this for ages.

i feel fat, ugly, and totally consious about my weight rite now. i did lose the weight a while ago but over the past year or so its crept back on.

im at my wits end. its seriously the only thing i think about all the time but the more i think about it the more i eat.

exercise involing a gym etc would be a good idea part from the fact im totally unfit and work stupid hours so i wouldnt always be able to go and visits would become very unregular.

Help needed

Posts: 5
Registered: 05-Dec-2006
Re: please help!
Posted: 06-Dec-2006 17:49
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and another thing is i have the dreaded bloating which is BAD. looks like im pregnant which doesnt help